13 Reasons Why is a terrible show with bad acting and a main character -Hannah Baker who isn’t particularly likeable. Hannah like all the girls in this American high school is treated like a second class citizen. She records 13 tapes before she kills herself and we hear each tape as time flicks between real time and the past where we see all her experiences mainly with the aid of the other primary character Clay Jensen listening to these tapes.
You’ll have heard of this show unless you have been living under a rock and everyone has an opinion, some think it’s positive for Mental Health and dialogue, but the majority think the show glorifies or romanticises Suicide.
There are so many reasons why this show consisting of rape and suicide scenes shouldn’t be freely available on Netflix.
My big issue is these tapes indicate her suicide was the result of others’ actions.
That’s not what suicide is
Suicide isn’t murder or even manslaughter. It is the taking of one’s own life ,by one’s own hands.
Bullying and rape are shown in the series and may contribute to a decision to take your life, but only one person makes the final decision to die by suicide and that’s the person themselves. Hannah Baker decided to die by suicide. The idea that external factors lead to suicide is a dangerous one and this series in my view gives that message and that is a very irresponsible message.
As someone who has had a lot of battles to fight,but fought through including losing my girlfriend to suicide and considering it strongly myself , I can clearly remember the feeling that I was irrelevant to others, that my life didn’t count.
I felt no one could see my pain and certainly no one could understand it. It comes hand in hand with the insidious and painful diseases of depression and anxiety and PTSD:
The desire of “I’ll show you how much I am hurting” can attribute to a decision to end it all for someone who is so seriously depressed they believe life isn’t worth living. It gives their death a reason.
In Hannah’s case, she does show them all. She lays clear blame with many individuals and she gets revenge posthumously.
One character states in the series,
Well, we all killed Hannah Baker” and this is wrong,
Hannah Baker killed Hannah Baker.
End of story.
Let’s be clear, there is nothing triumphant about losing a life for payback.
Do you know what is extraordinary
Mental Illness isn’t explicitly mentioned in any of the 13 episodes.
“Hannah explains the reasons that caused her to die by suicide. It’s long been shown statistically that over 90 -95% of people who die by suicide suffer from mental illness. While external circumstances such as bullying can contribute to suicide, Mental Illness leads to suicide.
That’s me done, but I decided to back up my case with Mental Health experts I looked for and read
Mental health experts have expressed a very real fear this series will lead to suicide contagion. I have had discussions with those who believe this should be shown
Re schools. I had a recent conversation with a young girl here who wanted to break the age censorship and show it in Irish schools. Terrible Terrible
Now for the back-up,
The National Association of School Psychologists in the US released a statement: “Research shows that exposure to another person’s suicide, or to graphic or sensationalised accounts of death, can be one of the many risk factors that youth struggling with mental health conditions cite as a reason they contemplate or attempt suicide.”
A Florida schools superintendent told parents in a letter that his district has seen a rapid rise in at-risk behavior at elementary and middle schools — including self-harming and suicide threats — in the wake of a graphic Netflix series about a 17-year-old girl’s suicide called “13 Reasons Why
Palm Beach County Schools Superintendent Robert M. Avossa wrote in a letter-a couple of days ago -April 28
As a father of a teenager and tween, I am very concerned about a dangerous trend we have observed in our schools in recent days. School District personnel have observed an increase in youth at-risk behavior at the elementary and middle school levels to include self-mutilation, threats of suicide, and multiple Baker Act incidents. Students involved in the recent incidents have articulated associations of their at-risk behavior to the “13 Reasons Why” Netflix series. The Netflix website tagline summarizes the series theme as follows: “After a teenage girl’s perplexing suicide, a classmate receives a series of tapes that unravel the mystery of her tragic choice.”
Producers for the show say they hope the series can help those who may be struggling with thoughts of suicide. However, the series, which many teenagers are binge watching without adult guidance and support, is raising concerns from suicide prevention experts about the potential risks posed by the sensationalized treatment of youth suicide. The series graphically depicts a suicide death and addresses in wrenching detail a number of difficult topics, such a bullying, rape, drunk driving, and slut shaming. The series also highlights the consequences of teenagers witnessing assaults and bullying (i.e., bystanders) and not taking action to address the situation (e.g., not speaking out against the incident, not telling an adult about the incident).
We do not recommend that vulnerable youth, especially those who have any degree of suicidal ideation, watch this series. Its powerful storytelling may lead impressionable viewers to romanticize the choices made by the characters and/or develop revenge fantasies. They may easily identify with the experiences portrayed and recognize both the intentional and unintentional effects on the central character. Unfortunately, adult characters in the show, including the second school counselor who inadequately addresses Hannah’s pleas for help, do not inspire a sense of trust or ability to help. Hannah’s parents are also unaware of the events that lead to her suicide death.
In Canada, Hamilton Wentworth School District said on its website that the show was guilty of the “glamorization of suicidal behavior and negative portrayals of helping professionals.” It also said that School Mental Health Assist, an organization meant to aid school boards in Ontario, actually sent a memo urging teachers not to broadcast the series as educational
The Washington Post’s television critic, Hank Stuever, wrote that the entire premise of the show is an “unbelievable and selfish conceit, a protracted example of the teenager who fantasizes how everyone will react when she’s gone.”
He said in part:
The story — as first told by Asher’s novel and now developed into this series by Pulitzer-winning playwright Brian Yorkey (“Next to Normal”) — strikes me as remarkably, even dangerously, naive in its understanding of suicide, up to and including a gruesome, penultimate scene of Hannah opening her wrists in a bathtub. Whatever “Thirteen Reasons Why” gets right about teen tendencies toward melodrama fades as the series fumbles around with tone and emotional accuracy. The characters very rarely come across as real, perhaps because the story itself is so contrived.
According to the St. Vincent Elementary School in Edmonton, Alberta, sent an email to the parents of sixth graders letting them know their students were prohibited from even mentioning the show on school grounds
The discussion that is unfolding at school is troubling. This series is rated Mature and the theme is the suicide of a high school student. This show includes graphic violence (rape) and gore, profanity, alcohol/drugs/smoking, and frightening/intense scenes,” read the letter. “The purpose of this email is to provide you with this information. Please let your child know that discussion of ’13 Reasons Why’ is not permitted at school due to the disturbing subject
Dr. Harold S. Koplewicz, president of the Child Mind Institute said
“Teenage suicide is contagious. We know for over three decades that when kids watch television where they depict a suicide, they’re more likely to attempt and they’re more likely to actually (kill themselves).”
Teenagers are more at risk for committing suicide than children or adults. Ninety percent of teenagers who commit suicide have a psychiatric disorder. That means that they are very vulnerable.
The problem with “13 Reasons Why” is that it shows you that when you’re in trouble as a teenager, there is no help, you’re hopeless and that suicide is glamorous and effective — that’s not the message we want them to have.
Three decades ago, studies were done after there were four TV programs on the networks about teen suicides. About two weeks after the event, versus the two weeks before the show was seen on TV, there was a definite increase in both attempts and actual completions.
Netflix has been completely unethical and irresponsible in putting this show on the air because it ignores decades-worth of research and public health policy on how we take care of teenagers in general, and how we take care of vulnerable teenagers.
It’s only a matter of time when we will start seeing more suicide attempts among teenagers and more completions. The responsible thing to do is to remove the program immediately, not to keep promoting it.
This is a very high-risk television program.
Here we have a show that has very attractive people and a character who committed suicide and is glorified. The message that comes out again and again in the 13 episodes is that when you are a teenager and you feel hopeless, suicide is the solution. That’s a terrible message for all teenagers, but particularly for those who are vulnerable.
I would tell parents that they shouldn’t permit their children to watch it. If they have seen some or all of it, then it’s absolutely imperative that you sit down and have a conversation with your child and explain to them that suicide is not a solution. That if they are facing any bad event or bad feeling, you are there as a parent to help them.
I will leave you with the UK Samaritans who released a statement about the show that didn’t trouble itself overmuch with the details of the programme’s transgressions, perhaps considering them too obvious. Instead, the charity goes straight for Netflix: “It is extremely concerning that a drama series, aimed at a young audience, can be produced outside of the UK and made available to UK audiences and yet not subject to UK media regulation.”
It wasn’t until the opening line of 13 Reasons Why became a buzz-phrase that the show’s insensitivity became fully apparent. “Welcome to your tape” is used when somebody annoys someone else, no latte possible in Starbucks-Staff member “Welcome to your tape”
Please ensure you do your bit to ensure the young snd vulnerable don’t see this trash.